Sin
Sin Levels
- "-" = 0 - 9 sin
- "Sinner" = 10 - 99 sin
- "Wretch" = 100+ sin
Note: Your Sinner level is displayed in the "player info" screen.
Alternatively, the Lost Sinner's Sword can be used to determine sin level below 10 points.
Gaining Sins/Penalties
Things that do add sins:
- Sinning increases your chances of being invaded by arbiter spirits (Blue Sentinels)
- Arbiter spirits can invade you after your sin level reaches "sinner" (10 points of sin)
- When a NPC dies and souls are gained, no matter the cause, 1 point of sin is added.
- Invading using the Cracked Red Eye Orb and successfully defeating the host adds 1 point of sin
- Being killed by an arbiter spirit removes 1 point of sin
- Dying with an Arbiter Spirit on the map removes 1 point of sin, regardless of whether your death was caused by the arbiter spirit
- Sin does not reset after completing a play through
- Cromwell the Pardoner does not reset your sin level. His pardon mechanic only removes the aggro from hostile NPCs. However, due to a glitch that erroneously caused sin in the Crown of the Ivory King DLC during Patch 1.08, Cromwell was changed to offer 1 pardon for free. Unlike the regular pardon described above, it completely clears all types of Sinner statuses. It can only be done once per character.
- Using the Crushed Eye Orb to invade and kill Licia of Lindelt increases sin by 1.
Things that don't add sins:
- Completing Royal Sorcerer Navlaans questline without killing the NPC's does not increase your sin level by 1 (Tested while hollow with Lost Sinner's Sword - completed by showing him all items)
- Killing or attacking Vendrick or the Ancient Dragon does not count as sin.
- Killing an arbiter spirit does not count as sin.
- Dueling as a Dragon Remnant or Bell Keeper does not count as sin.
- Causing other players deaths in a coop session through environmental means does not count as sin.
Unconfirmed/Untested:
- Can sin be lowered back down to "0" by getting killed by an arbiter spirit, while playing as a white/gold phantom?
- Sin can be lowered by helping defeat a boss as white/gold phantom? *Had "Sinner 10-99" level, full hollow, did one boss fight as a White Phantom and had no sin and became human upon returning to my game. *Seems to be incorrect, tested with lost sinner sword and exactly 10 sin, tried to kill a boss as both a white and gold phantom with no decrease in sin.
- When sin level is 'Wretch', you can go below 50% hp when fully hollowed.
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so is there a npc blue phantom which reduces sin? or when servers will go down you will never be able to reduce sins?
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Keep in mind that Cromwell's Single Pardon per Character can be abused to have 0 Sin for a character AFTER you've done everything your heart desires to gain Sin and bully NPC's and Others alike, But only ONCE... So use it well if you Plan on using the Lost Sinner's Sword at it's absolute strongest (Arena will NOT give Sin, so it's perfect for use there) Lost Sinner's Sword has 200% Damage at 0 Sin and 50% Damage at 100+ (It has 100% roughly around 10 Sin oddly enough and starts heavily soft capping the lost damage until the max 100)
I've Learnt so much about the Sin mechanics and the LSS just so i can use it at it's best and any and all quirks with the Sin mechanic and the LSS itself... There's a lot of hidden stuff, most Notable one is that the LSS oddly grants it's Damage boost to Most Forms of Infusions (all but the status effect ones) and effects weapon buffs (resins and spell buffs) but not Ring effects (RTSR or Ring of Blades) and also not Body buffs like Sacred Oath... So the Weapon when Sin is properly managed is a monster (also, if infused and you have 100+ Sin, you technically go below the 50% damage, but not by much, roughly 7% lower.)
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With 0 sin, 40 DEX & 40 STR, an unupgraded Lost Sinner's sword will have 184 base damage +70 AR. Use this to make sure you haven't sinned. If the AR is lower than this, use Cromwell's first time free pardon to reset your sin level to 0. You only get one reset per character so be careful. Use a Soul Vessel if you need to adjust your DEX and STR stats. Hope this helps friend.
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You can actually gain sin from killing the little hard to hit things near the mansion in Majula. Starting a new game I talked to the cat and then killed the three little bug things and talked to her again and she told me my sin's were racking up
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does killing the host while invading w/ Red Sign Soapstone add sin? What about killing the host as a Looking Glass Squire? and if so does it depend on if you used the CREO or the RSS to get in?
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Something that DS3 should have had, too much back and forth without any consequences.
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Can I remove sin levels if I can't get invaded because I can't play online?
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So i want to become a wretch and always kill NPCs,HOWEVER i wear the agape ring while doing it. According to this,do i not get sins?
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I just Killed the Ancient Dragon in my first NG and it does gives you sin (I'm playing SOTFS, PC). Cromwell is asking for 201000 Souls and this is the only NPC I've killed.
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I'm kinda disappointed with this list because it says attacking an npc counts as sin but the wikidot page says only killing them counts as sin. So killing an npc would equal 2 points of sin?
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"When sin level is 'Wretch', you can go beyond 50% hp when fully hollowed."
I thought that meant you get a health bonus when you are fully hollowed. Just reach Wretch myself and now, to my surprise, when I get cursed or die a lot my max health goes all the way down to a tiny portion. Wearing the Ring of Binding helps, but its effect is also reduced now.
Thanks Wiki.
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Both my scholar of the sin playthroughs, both platinumed.. Had never reached any level of sin and I killed all NPC for navlaans quest plus licia. No matter what my sin level has never had any number or symbol near it,so what you are stating doe not apply to every single player and is definitely not factitious. I have videos,pictures,whatever you need to see. I will kill an NPC on video and show you my sin level. My cost is zero all the time if I want to pay to cleanse my sins. This game is not as the original ps3 port was I'm sure. But get your facts a bit better here it is misleading.
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I'm gonna go sin right now
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