Bone of Order | Dark Souls 2 Wiki

For anyone there that waited in altar and still did not get the bone spawned, if you get banned and you used your bone of order it won't respawn if you are not banned it only will spawn if you are banned and don't have the bone, if you used bone of order the counter of disconnects will reset to 0.

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bro i alt 4 because 4/5 of the player invasions are lagged out to hell and i dont like fighting someone that teleports behind you due to latency issues on THEIR end

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I mean if you want to Alt F4 you can! I honestly have no problem with it. But you should get your cracked red eye orb back.

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You can easily get it through ShopMod if you download the old version. Feel free to leave the game, and when they give a ban on online, just get a bone for free in a minute. No softban. The intruders are going to *one place*, of all the intruders, half were honest (and no cheaters) and normal to my level.

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For anyone playing on the Steam Deck, going in and coming out of sleep mode will put you into offline mode. This can be done at the press of a button, so you can do it as soon as someone invades you. It does not count as an 'illegal disconnect', so do it to your heart's content. It's also a great way to pause the game.

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Play offline if invasions bother you or alternatively, if you want to play online with a friend, tell them to use the soapstone outside the boss room, then pop your effigy there. The PVE in this game is dirt easy due to lifegems. Oh and most importantly, don´t be scummy by first having a normal duel with the invador and then disconnecting right before you get killed. This happens waaaaayyyy to much from my experience.

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Can you get softbanned for save-scumming? Not doing anything too game breaking, just hate the Soul Memory system that much.

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false info on the banning(at least in my experience) i dont have an option to go offline in Sotfs, so i alt f4 anytime i get a player invader(cause you cant really stop the npc invaders from coming). never got softbanned ever. Although i would prefer a softban so i dont get invaded by players.

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yes, i alt f4 every time i get invaded (get owned retard). yes, my cock does fit snug inside a large size pringles can. any other questions?

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If you have a save from before the ban and re-download it on the PS4/PS5 then you can get around the ban. Just tested it out yesterday. So make sure you turn off automatic save uploads in settings and always upload saves manually when duplicating or fighting hard enemies.

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Restoring your save on the PS4/PS5 from before the ban prevents the ban from sticking. Just got banned for aborting a few times and received a message saying I was banned from online activities. Restored my save from 20 minutes before and no longer banned! Save scumming works for everything!

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I got invaded in a dlc. The one where the pillars go and down. I was up on and we were exchanging arrows. His being bleed and more powerful. He couldn't get me down and and I wasn't going down. Figured if he wanted to fight so bad he should have gotten me down. Well got tired of the arrow fight and just disconnected. Got invaded a little while after not sure by who probably same player and just disconnected. Didn't want to deal with bullshit. Of course he tries trolling me in messages with this rule. But don't care much about invading. Never do it. Or looking for help from other players. If I do get penalized.

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ooooohhhh the smell, the toxicity of this comment section. reminds me of the PKCS page on the DS3 wiki

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so if you just have a bad connection or the game crashes during online multiplayer enough this can still happen to you? lol

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Beware of toxic

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So I had a lighting take out my power when someone invaded me in shaded woods and we couldnt find each other for like 3 minutes then the power went out. Would I have to use the bone?! This was a week ago.

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i have completed the game many times through with no deaths. i love coop but hate pvp. the unwilling pvp really ruins the potential of these games. especially when the invaders are pretty much always twinks and rarely someone looking for a fair fight.

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As an invader myself this makes no ****ing sense. People disconecting doesnt bother me that much and having to wait 10 hours for such a thing is absurd. A 24 hour soft ban or something similar would've been much better.
Not to mention having bad internet.
Fromsoft really missed the mark with this one

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No humanity loss and souls from pvp and it would be perfectly fine for everyone.

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Oh look! Got invaded 6 times in a row by the same guy. In the same place. Fine, getting attacked once a while is okay but come on, same a**hole that keeps spamming orbs to invade?

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Yes, I purposefully disconnect away from invaders
No, I don't have infinite human effigies to waste on not getting invaded nor do I want to waste my time farming them, neither do I want to play offline as I very much like coop and messages

Excuse me for not wanting to deal with laggy reddies who teleport to my back without taking any damage from slashes that clearly hit them

Dark Souls 3 is good at pvp, in this game its just annoying as ****

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What scummy game design, not putting a "Play Offline" option in-game and then penalizing players who don't feel like getting invaded in a half-decade old game. I don't even mind the occasional invasion, but I've gotten at least 30 in the last day of playing in Iron Keep, and it happens so fast it's almost entirely unacceptable. If FromSoft puts anything remotely like this in Elden Ring, I hope they lose the rights to all their major series...

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what counts as an illegal disconnect

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I know disconnecting is scummy, but wouldn't a 24 hour softban make more sense than this convoluted crap? Illegal disconnecters are the least of my concerns in PvP, and usually end with me being relieved that the host wasn't using cheat engine to break all my gear (not to mention that those joyless losers who hack never seem to get banned)

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It spawns at the point you appear at the start of the game. The Bone of Order will only spawn after you get banned for a second time. It doesn’t matter how many times you visit the spawn point after a first ban, you won’t receive another Bone of Order. After you get banned for a second time (and have to serve a suspension) the bone will spawn after about 10 hours. The first time you are banned you already have a bone of order, so that is a warning. The second time you get banned, you have to serve a suspension because you haven’t got a bone of order. After the in-game waiting period of about 10 hours another will spawn and you will be able to use it so that you can start multi-playing again.

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Where exactly is this supposed to regenerate to? The platform at Betwixt's beginning, or somewhere else? Also, I have the ps3 version of SotFS, since is it possible that it would appear only on ps4 SotFS? I know I've waited for it to appear at the platform and that I'm pretty sure that I've been playing without an "illegal" disconnect for 18 to 20 hrs since using my Bone.. Anyone got any legitimate advice (and no, I don't consider "Git Gud, scrub" to be a legitimate answer)

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I mean, if you don't wanna get invaded, play offline. I've been guilty of PURPOSELY disconnecting, but on when the invader is trolling me and hiding or I gotta go to work. I don't coop so I don't think I've been banned even though I've done this a handful of times... so I 'think' it's fine if they're not soft banning after just a few disconnects, and a timer resets those every so 10hrs or so.... and if yor Internet is really that bad, maybe play offline?

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I doubt very much this game was designed to pander to belligerent, malicious gamers, who create near unkillable characters, solely for the purpose of griefing others. I have been invaded numerous times by players whose characters appear as nothing more than a near undiscernable wisp, or somehow manage to break all of my equipment without executing any visible form of attack. Recently one of the players I co-op with, after engaging with an invader, found the that some of the merchant NPC's in Majula had disappeared. With so many players using hack type exploits to create characters just to grief those of us who are actually trying to play the game as it was meant to be played, some form of alternative rather than punishment seems more appropriate.

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Get invaded, every *****ing time in the middle of multiple enemies and all they have to do is stand there with their shields up and let the mobs surround me, (very fair, use summon signs or actually fight someone who isnt completely unprepared and at a serious disadvantage pricks, you guys sure do earn your victories). So join the sentinels because f this*****, see how they like it and about once for every 50 or more times the blue orbs actually work and then it just keeps disconnecting anyway because my internet is garbage and will probably penalize me for it. And every single time I kid you not when it works they are always in a completely safe area with no enemies, prepared, and with full health, and have some bs up their sleeve like weapons that punch through my 100 defense shield or op spells. F my luck. I played basically the whole game as company of champions with full hollowfication and even I have to call bs on invaders. Seriously you guys are truly what makes the game fun

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I understand this is Dark Souls and it's supposed to be hellish and hard. But the invaders are armed for PvP and usually appear while the hapless PvEer is already fighting mobs. It's not a duel, it's slaughter. In the unlikely event one comes through while you are in a cleared area you have a chance of winning because you have estrus and they don't. Their advantage is having fought dozens of duels. But the basic invasion rule is just to make the game harder and more unpleasant, because it's Dark Souls. This is why I waited until 2019 to play, most of the ***hats who enjoy slaughtering people who are engaged with mobs have moved on.

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It sucks having a bad internet connection. A lot of times the game assumes that you're pulling the plug when in reality you're just losing internet. How do i tell if i have been banned and need to use a bone? Because I have a poor connection and don't know when to use it.

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I got soft banned for nothing. I haven't disconnected from anyone. I've onle been invaded by people but I try to kill them.

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Why and how in the hell are people still complaining about invasions?? Out of about 8 playthroughs, I’ve only been invaded TWICE. Either I’m a lucky duck or people are just making sh*t up to start drama

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THIS IA STUPID. THE GAME ASSUMES YOU'RE PULLING THE PLUG CAUSE YOU'RE LOSING A MATCH. BUT ANYONE THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT PVP IN DS KNOWS YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR ALL THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF A MATCH. MOSTLY, PPL GET DISCONNECTED BECAUSE OF THERE INTERNET SERVICE GOING DOWN, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CHEATING AND TRYING TO AVOID LOSSES. THERE ISN'T EVEN A RECORD OF WINS VS LOSSES SO IT'S DUMB TO THINK PPL ARE JUST QUITTING GAMES.

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The game has rules. U don't follow them u get punished. Instead of saying its OK to break the rules play offline. Summoning is supposed to be a way of helping u with an area not a full playthrough.

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So my guess is once your NG+ and this happens your screwed then? If so RIP to my NG+3 file with my favorite weapons.

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The pvp in dark 2 i so broken tho

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So I'm out of luck, I illegally disconnected too many times, and looked through my inventory multiple times and haven't seen the bone of order, and I'm In NG4, or is there some way to get another?

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So, i just got the message saying my connection to other world was lost, yet not 10 seconds after that message and loading in, i get invaded, WTF??? While im here, i want to say I only DC because everyone that invades is a douche. if you want to pvp, put your sign down and face people who ACTUALLY want to fight you. i have no desire to pvp. the response i see a lot to this statement is to "just play offline", but did you know that you cannot do a certain thing called jolly cooperation when your offline? Another thing you hear a lot from the invaders is that to DC is a douche move, and to that i say, nay, forcing your min/maxed pvp specific no lifer build into my pve casual build is WAY more douchier; oh and the fact that you have the timing for EVERY weapon's dodge timing down to the millisecond is complete BS. if you want to invade, atleast have the decency to put yourself on the host's level and give the host a fighting chance.

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Can't believe people are butthurt about a mechanic in the game. They say they don't like being invaded, buhuuu, then burn a human effigy, boom, there you go. Have an emergency and you were invaded? Be AFK, what is the problem with dying once? Maybe the invader will even wait for you. No matter the case, ALT+F4 is a cowardly action and goes against the game's intention. The mechanic is called "invasion", not "friendly visit".

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this is bullshit my game keeps kicking me to the menu due to saving errors and then this happens

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If you hate invasions play ds3 so whenever you get invades you have a ganksqaud, good game

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im a good pvpeer and pveer and i never disconected from whatever it was and the problem with me i that the better i get in pvp the worst i get in pve and im 455 with 57 lvl in all stats

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I am a PvE player. Always have been, always will be. I do not invade others and almost never play PvP in any game. Both me and my friend have this opinion on invasions: They are a HUGE nuisance. I do not have any Sin, so I only get invaded about 3 times per area, whereas my friend has atoned for his Sin and gets invaded once every 5 minutes. The one thing is, by the time they have entered, I only have just opened my menu or just noticed that they invaded. I have no time to get out my Raw Hand Axe +10. Since I am in NG+, most invaders are way too good to get smashed to the ground by a Great Club. I hate invasions, and often leave the game to avoid their most inconvenient timing, but that is my play style getting in the way of it. I cannot win invasions. That is why I am punished.

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Doesn't this make it hard for PS Now players to play?

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well thus titslly sucks hardily even on for the last 3 mknths and when I do log in it tells Me I need a bone of order after xbone GLITCHED AND YOUR SERVER STUCK ME IN A WALL!!!??? WHAT IS GOING ON??? ME THINKS XBONE AND THE SERVER SHOULD USE A BONE OF ORDER IN ORDER TO FIX THIS GLITCH...

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It will activate from co-op disconnects on PC, me and my friends have had server issues where 1 of us never fully loads and gets stuck on the loading screen, alt+f4ing on this apparently counts enough we've had to use a bone of order after disconnecting too many times

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I got the penalty because I kept turning off my Ps3 after I got sick of fighting laggy red phantoms so rage quit AFTER the fight not during.

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I have never disconnected but I still got the penalty. Good job FromSoft.

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I have a serious question here:

But first, my situation.
I want to beat DS 2 without dying or using bonfires (the way to get those to unique rings, Illusory Ring of a Conqueror & Illusory Ring of the Exalted). Since it is FATAL being invaded while doing these challanges (either you need your heal items badly, and you just must not die), turning off multiplayer through burining effiies is not possible (you cant sit at a bonfire, bruuh).

SO, if i happen to ALT+F4 during an invasion, does that count as a death? I dont even really care about the ban from multiplayer, i just want to know if i screwed up getting the ring Illusory Ring of a Conqueror?

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Honestly, I think the pvp in DS2 is all around pretty good... Hosts get to heal, invaders get to... well... invade

And all around, Dark Souls advertisez themselves as a difficult game

if you like being online but not pvp use the ring of binding and a few points into your VIG stat to cover the loss... I mean come on, DS1 was NOT that forgiving, lighten up and play to win or just dont play Dark Souls

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I lost the count on how many hate messages I got from disconnecting in PVP. Yet, I only had to use 1 bone of order so far. So much fun!

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PvP is always fair, and if anything is stacked in the favour of the host. Many choices of fast healing options and being able to summon phantoms. All PvP is based on Soul Memory, so you'll be matched with people who got the same total amount of souls as you. If you're being overpowered by other players you just didn't invest your souls in a good way. If you can't handle invasions just play offline

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I don't really mind invades in the second DS. Maybe because it's a much more balanced game overall and because it familiarizes you with the concept early on by spawning NPC invaders. But most importantly, you don't have to sacrifice your precious humanity at the bonfire in order to spawn some NPCs near the boss fight area, only to be invaded by some asshole and get killed on the way there.

I guess the only valid complaint is that the game is really selfish for punishing you if you gotta do an emergency bail out - what if something was burning on the stove, the kid was playing with knives, or the house was on fire? Seriously, though, anybody who's playing Dark Souls is a *****ing nerd with no other obligations or responsibilities, so the argument is invalid.

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I did that on purpose, i just didnt want to lose my 400.000 souls lol. enough for level up two levels. after get killed and get back on bonfire, it was less than 5 seconds before i get invaded. really? at least give me 20 seconds to be free of invasion after i leave the bonfire lol. i was gonna lose my souls if i didnt alt+f4. but its my mistake so i think is a fair punishment.

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Oh sorry that I play it for the PVE and dont like forced PVP.
I was just never a fan of it, in no game ever, its as simple as that, why dont they simply add a permanent option to disable invades? I love the messages, I love the multiplayer PVE, I hate PVP

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People don't always try to disconnect on purpose jackass. If they don't like being invaded, they don't like being invaded. It is only one mechanic dip***** and is not the point of the game, so you are thinking of the wrong game. *****, if the old school community is anything like condescending dip*****s such as yourself, then it is great that they are hardly a thing now. What a whiny ***** you are.

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What the hell are you people *****ing about? Being invaded is part of the game. If you don't like it your playing the wrong game. ***** I miss the old school community. I'm guessing all you whiners play on the computer or Xbox.

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So you can't get a new one at ng+ huh well I'm screwed if this happens again

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do you need to be on the character

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I play how I want. I paid for the game. I don't invade other worlds, I just summon the bots to help me in fights sometimes. Why the hell should I be punished because someone much better than me comes to mess me up? I suck enough already, let me slowly slowly win alone, thank you. Alt-F4 for life

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Sometimes upon loading the game , my 1st invasion caused my game to freeze up .... once its loaded its fine .... now i got banned for this ...... pretty gutted lol. Guess ill use the time to finally format my PC :( !

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I got banned because I had to turn off my ps3 on a middle of a battle I can't quit or turn of my console either wtf I'm I suppose to do then

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I just made a new character and i was at iron keep on sm 800k. I entered the smelter fight and got invaded at thesame time. The fight with the smelter was normal until the game crashed with no explanation. I came back and i got the message that i went for illegal disconnect and stuff.But i havent even got invaded but 2 times and i havent disconnected once. Has anything similar happened to anyone else?

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i think you should only get the ban if you leave a host in battle because it's BS that you get banned for trying to avoid invaders i'm ok if i'm a summon and i leave my host in battle and then get banned but when and invader comes into my world and i leave and get banned for that. that is some stupid system FROM put into darksouls

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Its suprising how many people complain about being invaded 1. you have the advantage of estus and they dont 2.im sorry for your loss 3. 2 was a lie and 4. git gud

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Someone please help. I'm no coward I would never abandon a fight no matter what the disadvantage might be. But my ps3 freezes probably once an hour. It needs to be cleaned but I don't have the tools atm. After several freezes in BoB arena (was practicing parry) I got banned. I had a bone of order yeah that's great. But I'll continue to freeze. Can I message from? What do I do? This is my favorite game I don't want to lose the ability to play it. That is extremely unfair to ban someone because the game console that their game is for suffers tremendously from dust build up. That is sony's fault not mine. Please help :/

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